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Tale Of The Ear pt11
Quixote LaManchas

sires and sons II

1981 was a banner year for LaMancha sires. Within the space of a month three bucks were born which were to dominate the decade: Coastside Voyager, Antares M. Voyager, and Redwood Hills J. Chickory.


By the end of the 1980's the hold that Casperson and Edie held on the breed loosened a bit as breeders began to expand their horizons in search of a large framed, longer boned animal to better compete in the Best in Show arena.

The Alpine Look, as it is called, had always been a part of the breed's foundation. Blue Diamond, Laurelwood Acres and Tomahawk represented this tendency with their chamoise and sundgau LaManchas. Frequently they lacked the engaging breed character about the head of the K-Lou specimans and many carried the dreaded "pocket" at the foreudder attachment. In exchange the higher/wider rear udder attachment, more dominant in the Swiss breeds, was deemed adequate compensation.

In the 1980's the herd which most clearly represented this shift was Coastside (Harrison Family.) Barbara Harrison stated "We started with Alpines and that's the body type I've always liked." Her preference for what she termed the "mischevious LaMancha personality" factored in their ultimate choice of breed. Coastside foundation does were mostly daughters or granddaughters of "native on appearance" or "unknown" does. They used LaMancha bucks of Clovertop, Little Orchard and K-Lou breeding to build the next generation with these does.

Their first homebred champion - Coastside's Sandpiper - was so successful that soon the Harrison's were selling up to ten breeding bucks a year nationwide. Attractive sales catalogues together with continuous DHIR milk testing and extensive campaigning of the show herd put them on top until retirement and dispersal of the herd in the early 1990's.

GCH Coastside Sandpiper 3*M

Coastside Voyager, a Sandpiper son, was sold to Secret Ravine (Scheuble Family) to head up the sire force at their dairy/cheese factory. A chamoisee like his dam, C Voyager was bred to the herd queen - Secret Ravine Tiffany Tammy's Dawn, a blonde, deep bodied, high producing doe of Law-Zel/K-Lou/Laurelwood extraction. This union produced three memorable bucks: Secret Ravine Dawns Shine-On - L497653, Secret Ravine Dawns Brite-Lite - L500677 and Secret Ravine Hi-Lite - L497654. Voyager daughters with Secret Ravine dams averaged 83 final score for type with 64% reliability.

Tiffany Tammy's Dawn

Krishellen (Sherry Welker) used Brite-Lite (84 type fs/ 71% ry) and Shine-On (84 type fs/ 67% ry) on her mostly Law-Zel derived does to great effect and in the process spread their influence to the Idaho herd of Gary & Greta Meyer and a California Sierra foothills herd of Timbercove (Linda Shuls.)

Brite Lite

Krishellen Brite Idea
Daughter of Brite Lite

A next generation chamoisee buck, San-B Acres TK Keynote of TC - L786743 was highly linebred (12%) predominately on Brite-Lite. Linda bred him to her foundation K-Lou/Clovertop does. His daughters averaged 86 type fs/ 71% ry. Many other Keynote daughters were born and blossomed in the Nevada Abelity herd (Bill Able.)

San-B Acres TK Keynote of TC

Shine-On was the maternal grandsire of Hodges & Amolsch's Winterwood's The Medicine Man - AL825501 (86 type fs/ 75% ry), one of two bucks used to establish the successful One*Oak*Hill herd in the 1990's.

The Dawn/ Voyager sons also left tracks in the Bickel's Little Bic's herd: Little Bic's Back to the Future L-883788 (linebred on Brite-Lite.) He sired Kastdemur's Sprite, and Kastdemur's Gazette two of the most prolific dams in the Kastdemur (Karen Senn) herd who were repeatedly crossed with One*Oak*Hill.

The most inbred (28%) C Voyager son was another handsome chamoisee - Secret Ravine Voyager's Nomad - L610826 (Voyager crossed with his daughter out of Dawn.) He was widely used live and through A/I in several California, Oregon, Washington and Idaho herds. His daughters averaged 83 type fs/ 78ry.

Secret Ravine Voyager's Nomad
Photo courtesy of Lynn Fancher

Secret Ravine's Supreme's Ribbon
Nomad's dam, Voyager daughter

Another C Voyager son: Secret Ravine Rainmaker L-616578 influenced the Connecticut herd of the Moshers's (Sundew.) He appears on both sides of the pedigree of an important buck of the late 1990's: Sundew C Constellation L-965013 who will be discussed in depth later.


Born to a first freshener who didn't survive the year, A Voyager was sold as a kid into the midwestern 4H herd of Tony Laudner. (His breeder Jam Slama, a respected Spokane WA breeder,) had dispersed her Antares herd by the time A Voyager climbed to the top of the National Show pack (as Premier Sire.)

At the suggestion of ADGA judge Norman Austin, who was impressed with his daughters, the buck (and the daughters) were acquired by Jim Vandergriff of Kansas. Being anxious to breed more A Voyager offspring the Vandergriff's (Haute Caprine) purchased quality Rocking M does. They were not disappointed - "consistency of type and general elegance" came through. Also, as they expressed it, he was prepotent for mammary improvements and dairy character.

Antares M. Voyager

Jim contended that A Voyager was a "sport" - an anomaly, unlike any of his close relatives.

I would disagree. Although A Voyager was not linebred, as such, he was a fairly tight package of "Basic LaMancha" genes. His closeup ancestors carry these prefixes: Fay (including Edie,) Nixon/ Longden Acres (including Casperson.) And his dam was a typical little cream colored K-Lou yearling: K-Lou N. Velvet Star. There are really no unknowns aside from a few - long forgotten - herd names randomly attached to these same animals.

An unprepossessing dark red buck, he looked like a more dairy version of his equally red sire and he produced an even more intensely red A/I son: Hammerich's Voyager Z Dreyfus and a red great grandson, the author's: Quixote Mela's Fidel.(That dominant self- red strain looks suspiciously " Murciana -like".) A Voyager is also known for black offspring, many with white frosting on the nose and ears. An equal opportunity buck, he threw plenty of creams and black & tans too.

Several Haute Caprine bucks sired by A Voyager were used extensively in other herds in the late 1980's and into the 1990's. Among them were the Spotlight Sale buck, H C Pulsar L-662260 (84 type fs/ 78% ry) who sired kids for Shammy's (Engemans) and Rockspring. H C Doctor A L-6626264 (84 type fs/ 74% ry) was used mostly by Haute Caprine and H C Delta Air L-763878 by Rockspring and Posey Acres. Delta Air was 22% inbred (2X A V) with daughters averaging 85 type fs/74% ry.

Thanks to excellent management and national show/ spotlight sale promotion by Vandergriffs, A Voyager was given every opportunity to show the stuff he was made of - to the advantage of the breed. After five years of concentrated effort they dispersed the herd in 1989.

OK Doe Key Voyager Sabrena

Haute Caprine Wendy


In a small New England herd - Sundew - the talent of owner Patty Mosher paid offin 1995 when Sundew C Constellation L965013 was born. She experimented with some inbreeding, primarily by linebreeding with her best doe, Catalina. The mix accented both Voyagers' sons with a bit of Rocking M and Quixote thrown in. Constellation's inbreeding co-efficient is a high 22%.

Sundew CS Catalina

Constellation has been used mostly by one owner, Ann Weikel, at Rockspring, nevertheless, his daughters 88 final score type average with 75% repeatability is very impressive. He is in the 83 percentile for yield with 63% reliability proving his daughters are not slouches in the dairy either.


Redwood Hills J Chickory

Not to disparage the proven talent of his breeders, Jennifer Bice and her late partner, Steven Schack, one could almost call- at first glance- the mating that produced Chickory - "incidental." Redwood Hills had leased milkers from Nancy Turner, including Tomahawk's Chick A Dee, who was subsequently bred to Barranca's H.H. Jamboree, owned by Spencer Pexton. The result: Chickory, a brown chamoisee buckling with white splashes on both sides, white stockings and dark trim.

Barranca's HH Jamboree

Tomahawk's Chick A Dee

Chickory was repeatedly bred to two does - Tomahawk's Shazam and Tomahawk's Shamballa, twins out of The Ananda Hills Shanna, a rather ordinary doe with a reputation for producing extrordinary daughters. The sisters were sired by Tomahawk's Dusty, a K-Lou Golduster son, who was also Chick A Dee's sire. This linebreeding on a true "udder" buck produced a raft of prepotent offspring.

Tomahawk's Shambala

Tomahawk's Shazam

Mostly alpine in coloring, the Shazam sons were RWH Showman L- 665377 - 85fs/89%rp - owned by Calico Rock and Yazz (Edith Jensen - AZ); RWH Silverado L-665376 - 86fs/70%rp - owned by Mt Olympus (Rimstidt family) and Clovermeadow (Paul Cappiello - NY); RWH Chapparal L-631901 - 80fs/51%rp - owned by Worthy Master (Greg Murphy - TN); RWH Showdown L-665377 - owned by Little Orchard (Griner family - NJ.)

Redwood Hills Showman

Redwood Hills Showdown

Shamballa produced a cream son by Chickory: RWH Shogun L-531436 who was retained in the herd together with a few Chickory daughters, the best known of which was the sundgau Shazam daughter, RWH Chicklet, 1986 Reserve National Champion,

RWH Chickory Shogun

RWH Chicklet

Toggenberg color Companeros Pierre Dividend L-717978, a Chickory grandson out of his daughter, Companeros Chickory Diva - by a Rocking-M buck - became the founding sire for the Winterwood herd (Hodges & Amolsch - CA.) Dividend earned a more than respectable 85 type fs with 75% rp.

Companeros Chickory Diva

The Chickory connection has "long legs" as we shall see...

CHICKORY + c voyager (hi-lite & shine-on) + casperson (goldduster)

The most celebrated sire in Judy Hibbard's Hibb-Herd (CA) was WNH Tanner's Red Thunder L-693348. Thunder, who was indeed red and threw lots of it, boasted a Chickory daughter Tanunda for his dam together with Coastside Voyager sons and offspring of K-Lou Golduster, the Casperson son, on both sides of his pedigree.

WNH's Tanner's Red Thunder

WNH's Kaiti's Tanunda

One of his showiest daughters, Hibb-Herd Zeamer, was a handsome rare cou-clair, Her dam was also a cross of C Voyager and Golduster genes.

Hibb-Herd Zeamer

Thunder's offspring showed excellent breed type and dairiness scoring 87 type fs/ 60%rp. A Thunder son was used in the Webb's South Fork herd in Colorado and several daughters moved to Arizona's Altrece herd (Alethea Swift) as the Hibbard herd was slowly dispersed.


The A/I Antares Voyager son, Posey Acres VW Xavier L-664765, a handsome black & tan with a Redwood Hill's J Chickory sired dam, was the sire of Aspen Hill's Tess and Aspen Hill's Elviria (Broaddus's of Virginia.) Both does' dams were closely linebred on Longden Acres Lucky Bid, the Casperson son. Xavier threw excellent type (85 fs/ 78%rp) of which the tall black & tan Tess, who appraised 93, was perhaps the finest example.

Aspen Hill's Tess


During the 1990's this California buck - black with a white belt - and his extended family, clearly dominated the LaMancha breed. Dutch, the son of a statuesque black & tan doe, Me's Ranch Oscar's Chantilly with a classic globular udder, came into the world in 1989. His breeder, Marty Holzhauer, developed a fancy for him early on and promoted him energetically as it became apparent his hunch held water.

Me's Ranch Dutch Belted
Photos taken at two years of age.

Dutch was linebred on Running Box Tess, a slightly less substantial version of Chantilly, his dam. Tess, the paternal sister to Chickory, compounded the influence of Longden Acres Happy Hustler in the rest of the pedigree. (Note how closely Dutch resembles Hustler.)

Running Box Tess

Me's Ranch Oscar's Chantilly

The Coastside buck, C. Barracuda Oscar L-583950, who also figures in Marty's breeding, is sired by a buck who shares the same Longden Acres grandsire as Antares Voyager, giving altogether new meaning to "what goes around, comes around."

The dam of one of Dutch's first daughters, Me's Ranch Dutch Treat - National Champion in 1999, happened to be a fine experimental doe sired by Red Thunder. (Another Dutch daughter, Rockin C-B Dutch Finale, was Reserve N C that year.) National Premier Sire seemed to always be a possibility, as well as a reality, as Dutch was used more and more through A/I.

At Rockspring Ann Weikel A/I'd several does eventually producing a small family of Dutchies. Meyer's in Idaho did likewise. In Washington Pat Hendrickson (Rocky Run) used Dutch semen successfully, as did Cindy Silva (Rockin C-B.)

We, here at Quixote, borrowed Dutch in his second year. The results were mixed, but by compounding the Dutch genes with the use of a Dutch son we added many desirable traits.

Plainly a type improver: 86 fs/ 79% rp, Dutch could not increase milk production or solids in his daughters over their dams. However, daughters like Hesba and Mirin, not to mention several Dutchess's, were always in contention for Best In Show honors.

He sired several sons, but none more notable than the twins: Hannibal and Harlequin out of Me's Ranch Saxon Hanna, a slightly more feminine Chantilly type. The brothers were 19% inbred, accenting the Longden Acres effect.

Me's Ranch Saxon Hanna

Harlequin traveled East with Jennifer Lohman, eventually surfacing in the One*Oak*Hill herd of John White, where he sired Tullia, the dam of Tumult, Tumbleweed, and Tuzla, the 2001 National Champion. Tullia had been bred to Winterwood's The Medicine Man to produce this trio. This combination of Harlequin and Medicine Man genes was crossed repeatedly by John to build his highly successful herd of tall, long bodied LaManchas, which continue to clinb in the type and production rankings.


For the last nearly 40 years Ray Vieira (Clovertop) has been an almost mythic force within LaMancha breeding circles. Since he operated a dairy during most of this period he rarely sold does and, given his numbers, only a few bucks. His practice has been to inbreed - or perhaps he would call it linebreed - very extensively. Often the same buck is named as all four grandsires. Naturally given his experience, Ray is highly opinionated about what he likes including favoring tricolor bucks showing a great deal of dairiness.

Winterwood used Clovertop's L Don Juan (inbred 14% and the sire of Medicine Man) to breed several successful bucks for others. Three full brothers (29% inbred) C Lionel, C Lovie LaMor, C Lyle Luvit all have memorable daughters in various herds. Lucky Star (Hoy's in Washington) used Louie Torres (20% inbred) extensively and later sold him to Oak Knoll Dairy in New England.

Clovertop's Lionel

The Clovertop buck influence is pervasive, but possibly because they are so inbred themselves they have not produced many inbred sons which limits much of their influence to dam lines.


At the start of this section we posed the question: Can the breeding schemes that created superior sires be analyzed? The answer is a qualified "yes." It's a tedious process with many loose ends. Photographs make the fragmentary records come alive. In summary:

  1. Prepotency for quality is not the sole provence of the inbred buck, but it helps, and is frequently resorted to by the experienced breeder.
  2. Selection for individual preferences within the boundaries of correct dairy and breed type have and will continue to be excercised without compromising the essence of the breed.
  3. Quality chases quality, especially when knowledge of the generations behind the parents is factored in. The right cross always matters.
  4. In the future A/I will probably be used even more widely with the end result being that a few popular lines will tend to dominate the breed. However breeders who find it most satisfying to march to their own drummer will always be with us.
The images of LaManchas from 1970-80s were largely of poor quality. Anyone who wishes to share with us better quality photos should contact us by e-mail: rabackus@sonic.net

A big thank you to Andrea Forrest who scanned these mostly black and white newsprint pictures for us.

Extended pedigrees and expanded production and type data are available on Gene Dershewitz's site: www.adgagenetics.org

Access to this data greatly expedited our work on this section.
Thanks, Gene!

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